

They’re doing the double whammy. Mandatory sign-in (even on old.reddit) and any account they can’t estimate as belonging to an adult through their use of invasive spy metrics and AI will be forced to do age verification.
Living fossil.
Also on: @coelacanth@aggregatet.org @coelacanth@piefed.social @coelacanth@fedia.io


They’re doing the double whammy. Mandatory sign-in (even on old.reddit) and any account they can’t estimate as belonging to an adult through their use of invasive spy metrics and AI will be forced to do age verification.


Lovely read, as always. Is there a picture somewhere of the aforementioned pile of retro handhelds you own, from which smorgasbord you most often reach for the RP6?


I think it’s just not having critical mass.
It’s definitely a huge part of the issue. Also demographics. The techy slant the Fediverse has does not seem to have a huge overlap with sports. That’s why I can mostly survive on Lemmy when it comes to Formula 1 discussion (although it’s still sparsely populated) while football (soccer) is much less active here.
how come the fediverse has attracted a grand total of zero e-sports people?
Hey, I post discussion threads for The International (Dota 2) every year, and usually get some replies and discussions in them too! I would say it’s even somewhat close to the activity level football (soccer) sees, though less than F1.
But in general I think Esports is just less popular overall than regular sports, so that’s your answer.


Ah I see. I don’t think so, unfortunately. Something like that would definitely be useful, I guess as a browser extension? I wonder if something like that exists…


I guess I just value the small and direct positive impact preserved information can have on the lives of others, and in this case I consider it a bigger gain than what the deletion would bring in the tradeoff. Maybe that’s evil, I don’t know.
Voting in elections is the exact opposite to that, at least in my eyes, and I always vote in state, local and legislative elections. In fact, I’ve been looking forward to this current election period for years now as maybe the tides are finally turning in Sweden and we can enact some change. Maybe.


It’s just sort of prisoner’s dilemma. Lot’s of people won’t do it. I’m just being realistic. And in the reality where the percentage of people who are likely to attempt to delete or “poison” their accounts is as miniscule as it is, it will have absolutely zero impact on the traffic Reddit receives. Yes, even if each of those accounts produced hundreds of Google hits. But maybe I am more concerned with preservation of information and helping people than spiting Reddit. What would be great would be for people to replicate the useful answers they made on Reddit on here so we can show up in searches and actually provide a valid alternative. In general I think we would be better off trying to build this place into something better than caring too much about our old Reddit accounts.


Its impact on Reddit’s business is absolutely negligible. A handful of people "poisoning* their accounts will not even register on their traffic monitoring. But the answers to questions or solutions to problems they may have posted over the years could help dozens or even hundreds of other people.
To me that tradeoff isn’t worth it. It’s throwing rocks at the armoured car driving past just to feel like you are doing something. The only one you have a chance or hurting is your neighbour.


What’s stopping you?


Inertia is a hell of a thing. Also TikTok has one of the most efficient algorithms of any social media, and I doubt it would be easily replicated. Especially if you’re doing it in the classic Fediverse spirit of trying to be non-invasive, non-addictive, caring for the users’ privacy etc.


Yeah, and that’s really the crux of it. To 90% of people, the content is all that matters. That’s why comments like: “hey, you like TikTok? Why don’t you try Loops instead?” or “Check out Pixelfed, it’s a bit like Instagram!” are unlikely to work. For most people, it’s just a strictly worse version. The same thing but without the content. Why would they downgrade for no reason?
You have to care about something external to the core experience of consuming content to actually be here. That’s why our population at the moment is, well, just us here *gestures around.* You have to care about FOSS, or decentralisation, or anti-corporatism, or really value the more human interactions you get in a smaller setting with fewer bots, or actually enjoy putting in more work and get less served to you by an algorithm.
Most of the people with those values I believe will eventually trickle over here naturally. The rest though, this is a really hard sell for.


If anyone knew, you wouldn’t have to ask. Everyone’d already been here.


Ah, good to hear. I checked out his other games on Steam and wishlisted Telwynium immediately after finishing The Drifter, but it will probably be some time before I play it. I like to switch things up genre-wise game to game. But I’m glad to hear it’s also quality, I’ll definitely pick it up at some point during some future sale.


Sorry for barging in through the door like a Jehovah’s Witness, but if you like these kinds of games you must try The Drifter. I finished it yesterday and it’s the best point-and-click I’ve ever played, may well have ruined the genre for me. It’s an adventure game that actually doesn’t use moon logic. A couple puzzles were a bit convoluted, but even those I felt like actually were based on some logic and made sense.
Plus it’s a great pulp story with phenomenal voice acting. Can’t recommend it enough. Well anyway, sorry for the interruption, I’ll move on to the next house. Thanks for your time.


It’s an inherent problem with having both users and communities on the same instances, and just how humans tend to operate in general in that we automatically gravitate to others and clump together.
I think it was @rglullis@communick.news who was saying that in an ideal world there would be two types of instances, one for users and one that only served as hosting space for communities. That way you could block or defederate user groups without losing access to entire communities.
Of course, we’re way past the point where reorganization into a structure like that is feasible. But it’s interesting to think about.


That sounds like a great idea, that’s some of the most important information.


I’m happy with my instance, with my admins and with my /local feed. And with Lemmy at large. It is not a feature that’s critical for me (I am unaffected as I only use my phone for Lemmy anyway).
But thank you anyway!


You can copy paste the URL into you instance’s search box.
But I do think we also need this feature https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy-ui/issues/2318
Since I use my phone for Lemmy 100% of the time I sometimes forget what a massive issue this is. A feature like that strikes me as critical.


I mean, I don’t think they’ve done something this bad just yet but they also do hardcode a lot of things into the software, and some of the webpage blocks are apparently very tedious to take out if you want a politically neutral Piefed instance. They are very openly opposed to the leftists around here. Here is some recent stuff too.
There was also stuff like the implementation of flairs on Piefed deliberately declining to use ActivityPub endpoints, which made it an exclusive feature to entice users to switch instead of something Lemmy could create compatibility with, which felt kind of EEE-ey to me. Now that was years ago and I haven’t kept up on development, they may have changed it around since then. I think flairs are coming in Lemmy 1.0, or something sort of like it.
And recently there was the whole vote rationing fiasco, which stemmed from some sort of fundamental misunderstanding of how voting works on a place like this by Rimu, was idiotic from the start and ultimately drove PugJesus (an incredibly valuable and active poster in tons of niche communities) permanently off the platform after they didn’t back down.
EDIT: more in this comment thread too: https://piefed.social/comment/12273761
Piefed has some great features but my opinion of it hasn’t been great as of late.
Hey, are we finally big enough for the bots to invade? That’s progress!
People have been using Threadiverse to refer to the link-aggregating community based Fediverse platforms with threaded discussion topics for way longer than Threads has existed as a website.
If you can come up with a catchier alternative then go for it. Link-aggregator-verse doesn’t really roll off the tongue.