Serious post warning, sleep-deprived wall of text ahead.

Someone who I dare say I respect publicly discouraged joining or supporting Lemmy on the basis of being The Tankie Place, linking this raddle post, a collection of horrifyingly flimsy evidence that Dessalines (lemmy.ml admin, maintainer of the wonderful dessalines.github.io/essays/) is a freedom hating redfash tankie who likes it when the evil CCP genocides uyghurs and bans femboys.

Naturally it all sucks but now i’m investing too many brain cells into thinking: how do you even refute this garbage?

I’m not proud of it, but I was an “anti-authoritarian leftist” too. I unironically said “tankie” once. And if i were told there is no Uyghur genocide, i would react exactly as if they had told me there was no holocaust. To the westerner, China really is as bad as nazi germany and straightforwardly saying otherwise, in their mind, is no different than if you replace Uyghurs with jews and China with germany. When this narrative is so deeply ingrained, how do you fight it? How the hell did I get here?

i really have no idea how to address it when, to them as it once was to me, it is so obviously true that anyone suggesting otherwise is not even worth listening to. these are fundamental beliefs and challenging them is grounds for instant block and report. its not open for discussion. all i can do is hope they find the truth on their own.

i’ll stop rambling now and sleep instead. so i wont respond for a while. sorry if theres a better community to post this in i just needed to get this out before i spontaneously combust. good night comrades.

  • IntoDaLagoon@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Defending the use of force against civilians expressing disagreement over their government’s decisions peacefully?

    Very ironic, since the phrase “Tankie” was coined to describe socialists who were in favor of “sending in the tanks” when Hungarian fascists attempted a coup in 1956. The “peaceful civilians” in question broke convicted Nazis out of prison, formed lynch mobs, and went around marking the front doors of Jews and communists for extermination before they were finally stopped.

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      1 year ago

      Just read up on it — interesting read. I wonder why Mao supported a second intervention. Honestly not sure on that event.

      It’s funny to me that the US couldn’t criticize the Soviet intervention because France and Britain were intervening in Egypt.