About two days ago we found a bug with the registration system on lemmy. Because of this we have updated our registration process a few times, and cannot deny any applications as the person registering does not receive any message and cannot re-apply.

We currently have several hundred people that we are waiting to deny, and some unknown amount of people that we denied prior to finding this issue which we would really like to contact and give them a chance to register as they didn’t write enough in their registration for us to really evaluate if they were a good fit for this instance.

If you’re a developer please take a look at this github issue and please work your magic to help fix this problem.

As an aside, we also have a list we’ve been working on for enhancements that would make moderating and administering this instance a lot easier, and enhancements we think users would enjoy in terms of UI and UX. We’d love to share these as well as facilitate a discussion to surface more ideas (and we plan to in the future), but right now we need to focus on the most pressing issue to us running this website, whether people can create an account here and participate.

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    Bit of a tangent here, but if you’re ever looking for experience designers to help out here and there, or to just give something a second set of eyes, I might be able to lend a hand or connect y’all with some bright and chill people.

    You probably don’t want me making any PRs, but I know my way around Figma and a user test plan.

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      I’d love to see you redesign some parts of the Lemmy UI!

      In my option, a lot of designing work is still to be done so I’d love to see mockups you can make and your thoughts on design work!

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        If we could end up with a theme that looks a lot more like https://kbin.social, I’d be so happy. My biggest gripe with Lemmy is all of the white space, and none of the current themes improve that at all. All of the theme options offered by kbin look amazing by comparison, and to my understanding Lemmy theming is done via CSS based on Bootstrap v4, so new theme creation should be straightforward enough.

        It’s to the point where, when visiting Lemmy instances, I use a custom CSS extension to modify a few properties to make it a bit more palatable to me.

        If you guys ever need help creating custom themes to offer to users I’d be happy to contribute.

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          Can you post your user style??

          But I would very much support having a more compact theme available without a browser extension. I think some tightening up up would make this place look more welcoming. It feels sort of “empty” due to all the white space.

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            Hey there, sure, currently I’m using this. The border between comments on a comment thread doesn’t look the best, but it makes it easier for me to track comment levels so I like it, though there are certain properties I’d like to change but can’t.

            Either way, I’m using an extension called Amino to apply my CSS changes on a domain-level.

            This fixes a lot of the whitespace and borders to make differentiating between posts and comments a little easier, while minimizing white space. I think it looks nice.

            EDIT: I’ve made a few more changes in terms of color.

            .container-lg {
                max-width: 1600px;
            }
            .col-md-8 {
                max-width: 80%;
                flex: 0 0 80%;
            }
            .col-md-4 {
                max-width: 20%;
                flex: 0 0 20%;
            }
            .col-sm-2 {
                max-width: 10%;
                flex: 0 0 10%;
            }
            .col-sm-9 {
                margin-left: 5px;
                max-width: 80%;
                flex: 0 0 80%;
            }
            .post-listing {
                border: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125);
                border-bottom: 0px;
                border-color: #c80000;
                padding-top: 10px;
                background-color: #fff;
            }
            hr {
                display: none;
            }
            .border-top {
                border-top: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125)!important;
            }
            .border-light {
                border-color: #e4e4e5!important;
            }
            body {
                background-color: #ecf0f1;
            }
            .navbar {
                background-color: #fff;
            }
            .card {
                background-color: #fff;
            }
            .comments {
                padding-left: 5px;
                background-color: #fff;
            }
            
            • crank@beehaw.org
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              thank you I like it! I hate when websites force me to have so much blank space. Like I remember what an improvement it was in 2002 when everyone got into sans serif fonts and padding to their table based layouts and using % widths, but the craft has moved on from those days… For this kind of website I am thinking more of a newspaper and less of a coffee table book.

              looks like Amino is only available for chrome and edge. For other ff users I will say I use an addon called Stylus but it might not be the best one; kind of resource hungry on big pages.

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                Hey so just a heads up, I made a few more changes that I quite like (again, for the red theme, tweak appropriately for the default green theme), so thought I’d just update you.

                This changes the main feed quite a bit, adding a bit more of a card-like design to posts, though I have done my best to make sure there isn’t too much white-space from this change, I just feel it looks a bit more modern, but again, feel free not to use it :)

                It also, and this is my favorite change, changes the title color of any post you’ve visited, something that I feel is basic but for some reason Lemmy didn’t have before. So now any posts you’ve visited before will be a light-gray color instead. Hope you find some value here.

                .container-lg {
                    max-width: 1600px;
                }
                .col-md-8 {
                    max-width: 80%;
                    flex: 0 0 80%;
                }
                .col-md-4 {
                    max-width: 20%;
                    flex: 0 0 20%;
                }
                .col-sm-2 {
                    max-width: 10%;
                    flex: 0 0 10%;
                }
                .col-sm-9 {
                    margin-left: 5px;
                    max-width: 80%;
                    flex: 0 0 80%;
                }
                .post-listing {
                    border: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125);
                    /*border-bottom: 0px;*/
                    border-color: #c80000;
                    border-radius: 5px;
                    margin-bottom: 8px;
                    padding-top: 10px;
                    background-color: #fff;
                    transition: all .2s;
                    box-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #c80000;
                }
                
                hr {
                    display: none;
                }
                .border-top {
                    border-top: 1px solid rgba(34,34,34,.125)!important;
                }
                .border-light {
                    border-color: #e4e4e5!important;
                }
                body {
                    background-color: #ecf0f1;
                }
                .navbar {
                    background-color: #fff;
                }
                .card {
                    background-color: #fff;
                    box-shadow: 2px 2px 1px #c80000;
                }
                .col-12 .card {
                    box-shadow: none;
                }
                .comments {
                    padding-left: 10px;
                    background-color: #fff;
                }
                a:visited .d-inline-block {
                    color:#d6d7d9!important;
                }
                .my-2 {
                    margin-bottom: 0px!important;
                }
                
                • crank@beehaw.org
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                  Thank you for sharing! I will try it when i am on desktop.

                  I actually used your code as base to start to fix some things that bug me the most… all spacing/positioning the colors are a total mess. So i am interested to see what yours is like. I can tell from looking that yours is more efficient because i do not know what im doing so it is trial and error.

                  Do you think there is a better place than wherever we are to post? A repo or other code sharing? I think the stylus extension connects to some sort of website but i never investigated it.

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        How does this work with a federation model. Is it possible that there can be lots of different clients with different UX’es?

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          Lemmy backend and lemmy ui are separate components. Look up LemmyBB, that for example is an alternative to lemmy-ui.

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          Fediverse platforms in general are just different UIs for the same content since they all interop to varying degrees. You can subscribe to and interact with Lemmy content from Mastodon, as an example.

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            Does that go in reverse too? Subscribing to a Lemmy instance, do I have a Mastodon account by extension? I thought they were different federated services, but being able to authenticate and authorize through one (or more) accredited account(s) would make sense for both services.

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              Lemmy has yet to implement the functionality needed to follow non-Lemmy accounts, but it is in the todo list. You should check out kbin if you’re interested in a similar UI that currently supports this functionality.

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    Is there a way we can minimize the stickies? It’s a quality of life but would be great to read it once and shrink it so I get to my feed quicker.

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    I have Rust experience and will consider helping out. I’ve been wanting to help out Lemmy recently anyway.

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    It’s possible, once they have a good ecosystem of apps plus a lower priced tier (maybe around at macbook air pricing?) However, I can’t imagining it ever shredding the feeling of dystopian-ness of it

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    I cannot code. 🫤

    But it occurs to me that we need a couple of features - although maybe they already exist.

    One is the ability to back up a Lemmy account and download the data.

    The other is account portability - the ability to move an account from one instance to another.

    But I suspect that #2 might be impossible.

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    Likely need to define some basic rbac controls. They signed up, sure, but don’t receive a “user” role until after approval. Then in the home page, when signed in with no roles assigned, they get a banner saying they’re still pending approval and will not be able to post or comment.

    The major concern will be retroactively applying user roles to the existing users.

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    Off topic but I’m really happy that the developers chose Rust to code Lemmy in. Low maintenance + high performance is the ideal combo for open source server software.

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    as they didn’t write enough in their registration for us to really evaluate if they were a good fit for this instance.

    I’m just curious, what do you consider to be “writing enough”? How strict are you with your applications? I’m trying to learn from beehaw for my own instance.

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      We want them to fit in with our philosophy, so we’re looking that they paid attention to our rule, our ethos, and our ambiance. To be clear, we’re not making judgements, but if you leave it blank or only talk about federation, we can’t be certain that you will vibe with how we moderate and what we’re trying to do here.

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        Hey, sorry to bother you again but I have a follow-up question. Maybe feel free to ping someone else that might be able to answer.

        How do you deal with users just signing up somewhere else and then interacting on beehaw anyway? I mean isn’t that effectively just circumventing the application process?

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          Probably most people interacting in our space are doing so through this method. It’s something we have always paid attention to. In the long, long run we will likely have to do something about it.

          Practically speaking we will likely have less tolerance for users like this who misbehave and we may have less discussions with them and simply ban and remove their content quicker.

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            In the long, long run we will likely have to do something about it.

            Do you have any solutions in mind? I’ve been trying to think of something but nothing quite feels right.

            Maybe having a setting like “Allow federated users to post” that you could disable, and then users from outside the instance can only comment, not post. That would at least cater the discussion somewhat to what the instance wants to talk about. It still feels very restricting though.

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    As a workaround you can go into the database and query directly for users with rejected application and email provided. Then write a script to email them. Getting a fix developed, reviewed, merged and deployed will take a few days in the best case. And even longer now because we are busy with lots of things.