The USSR would span its territories in the 80s but be led by a competent Marxist leninist party. Same for the Warsaw pact countries and Yugoslavia. These were caused by revolutions popping up all across the globe and other areas.
The US choice would have itself devolve into chaos while its power and influence decreases. Infighting would break the US into pieces but territories like hawaii and alaska would gain independence. The main government would be torn asunder and the CIA rogue and unfunded.
Whichever one doesn’t end in nuclear exchange.
End of the US for sure. The single most difficult material condition for any socialist society to adapt to is the existence of the US. If the US ended, there would be dozens of socialist experiments within the next 5 years.
thats my argument for the US collapse choice, the US is single-handily repressing socialism worldwide. With them gone, the world will be free.
I definitely choose the revival of the USSR and cooperation of the recreated governments of Warsaw-aligned, Yugoslavian, Balkan and former Latin-American and asian socialist countries united.
Wishing the U.S. would desolve into chaos and destruction is foolish, and an entire rube goldberg worth’s device of ways that could go wrong and backfire or make the global situation worse.
This power vacuum would turn into a smoldering crater of fascism, capitalist oppression and a wounded gazelle gambit willing to render large swathes of the Earth uninhabitable just to spite humanity out of socialism.
Where as a united principled and effective communist and anti-imperialist bloc of countries would eventually lead to the downfall of capitalism.
Damn, that would be a gigantic global movement, it would essentially push most anti-imperialist countries to a crossroads of capitalism or socialism rather than a state capitalist anti-imperialism. Like Nicaragua and Venezuela and Palestine could become Marxists in that case that would be so much more based than the fall of the current global leader. Whoever Western Europe supports after the USA falls will continue the military, but a giant global alliance against capitalism would fight against that
Revival of the USSR, because Amerika is already slowly dying, and a USSR-China alliance would make it happen much faster
I think the revival of the USSR would be the smartest choice. Having a pact of the USSR + current day China would be massive. From there on we can work towards the inevitable fall of the US, but with a strong socialist world power to pick up the pieces.
A fall of the US alone could backfire into a new fascist state or multiple fascist rogue states even, which would not be ideal.
Plus, reviving the USSR improves the lives of millions of people directly, so that’s great.
Excellently put. The world needs guiding examples, evening the playing field by taking out the US isn’t enough, why fight the fascists on even grounds?
Revival of USSR. Having china + USSR would be amazing… Also the US is already in decline so that choice is gonna happen anyways sooner or later
If ‘collapese of the American Empire’ includes their losing access to nukes, then that one.
It’s already happening. The US is already unravelling. The question facing humanity is not whether or not capitalism is ended, it’s whether or not a nuclear war happens as capitalism ends.
Plus, the USA existing is the main barrier to anything like the USSR making a comeback, whether that’s in its original form or more likely a Socialist bloc rising out of Africa, South America or West Asia.
Honestly second choice is already happening so neither of these choices really matter if we don’t have the second option be a more reasonable thing like “The US empire dissolves without the chaos that will start off nuclear Armageddon.” Revival of the USSR would only exacerbate the issue and at best give them a new enemy to throw their focus onto to stave off the collapse for a bit longer. At worse they are just a new reason for more nukes. So reality is this post is really just “what if the USSR was back?” Which would be pretty great for sure But it doesn’t solve the issue that the US will probably end the world eventually. At least that’s how I see it.
USSR all the way. When the US collapses, it won’t be a pretty sight and whoever takes upon himself the monumental task to deal with the various militias and terror groups that will snatch control of high-tech weaponry, will take years and incur massive costs of life and effort in the process of mopping up that shit. It is better to have a single weak US government in place with which a renewed USSR can establish diplomatic ties, continue to trade, and eventually conduct a peaceful and orderly transition into socialism with help from the outside
