Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you’re a server admin, please defederate Meta’s domain “threads.net

If you don’t run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate “threads.net”.

  • aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

    I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

    • guriinii@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Israel have been successfully pressuring meta to remove and shadow ban accounts sympathetic to Palestinians. The level of censorship is crazy.

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        OK, I’ll bite. You got something more substantial than “I read it on the internet” to back that up? One reputable source on your accusation? Not sayin’ you’re lying/wrong, just asking for some verifiable proof.

  • lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 year ago

    please take a look at the replies under zuck’s own post in threads.net and determine if that’s the type of content you want.

    for those who don’t want to visit, majority of the commentators are bots. some advertising crypto, and others asking for money.

    even if you think you can individually block those accounts, keep in mind the size of threads compared to fediverse.
    for Lemmy: monthly active users are barely 150K40K, while for threads it’s 100 million. there’s no chance you can control that inflow of bots.

    and if it still doesn’t convince you, you can read threads’ privacy policy, which states that they’ll gather all that pii if you interact with their content.

    most of the internet is already bigtech, I don’t want Lemmy to become another arm of it. though I have faith in my instance maintainer and dessalines, the dev.

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    2 months ago

    For default, they are unfederated in threads.

    Also, are you sure you want the mass don’t know what the federated web is? We are a low number of users. If we want to me the new standard of internet, we need the people to know what de Fediverse is. And threads can be that first door, and then they can start to spread to other more suitable stances.

    I just want to extend the conversation.

    • secret300@lemmy.sdf.org
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      For default, they are unfederated in threads.

      Do you mean instances have just all unfederated or that it’s built into Lemmy itself?

      I haven’t heard anything on threads in a while so I’m not sure how well it took off but I agree that having something like threads could bring in more users.

      Honestly I like the vibe of Lemmy and the fediverse now but I definitely do miss how there was a community for everything.

      • Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org
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        2 months ago

        A friend of mine made a threads account, and for his account being federated, the need to search in the settings a box of “Want your account to access the fediverse?” and the default is off

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    1 year ago

    Comment stolen from user “copygirl” from blahaj.zone:

    Looks like they’ll be harvesting your data if you follow anyone from Threads, maybe even injecting ads. Unsure what happens to the data of people that get followed by a Threads user. A large part of the fediverse is here precisely because they want to escape corporate meddling, data-hoarding, advertising and other anti-user malpractices. There’s a number of people talking about this, here’s a recent post that highlights some of the things from their TOS.

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    11 months ago

    Better yet, let them enjoy the full connectivity for a month. Once they’ve enjoyed all the awesome content and got used to it - defederate.

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    Let’s not defederate from every corporate player. Some of them can probably respect reasonable rules of civility.

    But fuck Meta. We already know how this plays out.

    We know there’s a huge wave of hatred and misinformation incoming. We’ve seen it on their other platforms.

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      There was an interesting paired poll done, asking about federation with Threads and federation with Tumblr.

      66% of people were wary of or actively opposed federating with Threads. Fewer than 20% were wary of or actively opposed federating with Tumblr.

      It’s not “defederate from every corporate player”. It’s passing this message on to Meta:

      A very ornate "fuck off"

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    I want a server where users can make these decisions for themselves.

    Fuck this mob-mentality spurred upon by losers.

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    And another attempt at blanket hating on a platform for no reason. Be more original, people.

    Edit: if YOU don’t like it, sure block it. But don’t force your backwards decision on everyone else.

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    If anybody remembers XMPP being widespread and what Facebook, Google, Apple and others (say, I personally remember VK and Yandex in Russia supporting it) did to it, that’s what will happen if you “wait and see”.

    EDIT: oh, half the thread is such comments

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    1 year ago

    In favor of defederation. If I start seeing garbage from threads in my feed, I’m switching instances. I don’t want Meta pushing their divisive, hateful, misinformation all up in my feeds. Meta will kill fedi. We don’t need them.

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      Yeah. I’ll switch to an instance that is defederated from Threads, if mine doesn’t.

      I left Meta’s other properties to avoid state sponsored hate speech. I won’t use a platform that gives hate speech a platform.

      I don’t need to wait to know if Meta will do that. I already know.

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      Great thing about the fediverse

      People get to decide what they want from their platform

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        Surely you’re aware of the embrace, extend, extinguish corporate strategy.

        People only get to decide what they want from their platform until facebook starts extending the spec. Then your client will become incompatible with some posts, and so on and so forth.

        In summary, it’s a threat to the platform itself.

      • DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de
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        Exactly, I hereby decide that I would like to ignore corporate efforts to undermine this burgeoning new platform. I furthermore reserve the right to complain about the loss of said platform in future years by claiming that it’s everyone elses fault for allowing corporate encroachment.

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      Yeah dude let’s just federate with an instance maintained by a corporation that has undoubtedly caused a genocide in Myanmar by turning a blind eye to a far-right hate speech group that caused an entire fucking minority to flee into another country.

      I don’t get why people are supporting and saying “oh it must be up to the user” like bro this is the company we’re dealing with. Fuck that fuck threads fuck zuckerberg i don’t want his shit cancer near something that’s going well so far.

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      Then go join threads.net? Nobody’s stopping you from doing that. That would put you on a server friendly to your beliefs.

      Server admins also have opinions, and are not required to take a democratic vote and each individual user’s choice into account. They can decide for themselves, and they will, for good or ill. If you don’t like where it ends up, your user decision should be to fuck off to threads.

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        I don’t think that’s what they’re saying.

        They’re saying that some users and admins might choose to wait and see

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          “Yes, Jeffrey has, in the past, killed and eaten gay men. But we should wait and see. It’s impolite not to invite him to the party!”

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            I don’t want to use their platform, but I get why some people might choose to stay federated so that there is incentive to pull people to mastodon and educate people about the issues

            There’s enough nuance there that I’m not dead set on either side, and I think we still have the chance to defederate later if there’s an increase in spam and harmful content / disinformation.

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              “Jeffrey doesn’t always eat people. Just sometimes. We should totally go clubbing with him and spurn him later if he eats one of us.”

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        I don’t want to join a proprietary service, but I want to be able to communicate with people who chose to join it.