if it keeps on happening, test your ram. any weird computer/hardware issues I’ve ever had (and I’ve done a lot of wild stuff for work), is either memory failure or a grounding problem (so maybe your power supply)

much pressure! I want it to work!

the self hosted version is a bit broken right now, I hope they fix it, but I tried last night and couldn’t get voice to work. Really want an alternative to discord

tried it last night and could not get voice to work, couldn’t even make a voice channel to TRY it

ya I’m setting up matrix with cloudflare tunnels now, first time using cloudflare tunnels, pretty cool. I’m not thrilled at having to depend on a third party service to connect to my own stuff, but it’s better than my home IP being public.

Let me know if you get it working with voice channels, tried tonight, no luck, couldn’t make voice channels at all. For text it’s fine I guess but that’s not enough.

Tonight I’ve tried a bunch of options

revolt/stoat, and I couldn’t make voice channels at all. If I could and it worked fine probably would have used that immediately

spacebar chat, got the server running just fine, no idea which UI to use, and when I tried the options I couldn’t connect to the server and it was really clunky

setup team speak 6, immediately wanted me to create an account on their servers, rm -rf

setup mumble - might actually work, but looks like ass, friends are gonna be skeptical

setting up full blown matrix now I guess.

I tried tonight, pretty broken, couldn’t create voice channels at all

Ahh interesting, thanks for the learning

Is this the 3rd name change? or the 2nd?

Came here to say this. Matrix is also a bit clunky still.

Change that, it’s the only way there projects will survive.

Right, I understand that perspective, but there is a way to do this with multi-party computation and some other cryptography where no one would have the actual power/be able to see the data/have control. The main issue is it’s expensive to run and no one would be incentivized to run it.

Not true, there are ways to do this privately with cryptography

If anyone is doing actual work trying to solve this please DM me, I’m interested in helping.

How?

Ya you could definitely do this way too. There is a standard that google came up with called private state tokens that would allow you to do this in a pretty clean way, if you were cool with using your governments portal.

Essentially you would login to the govt portal, they would issue you some limited set of tokens (let’s say 5) that would expire after 30 days. You would go to an age restricted website and sign up and that would “burn” a token.

You could use ZK on top of this to make sure that the same email address or some other “nullifier” piece of information was used, to prevent an 18 yo kid from selling their tokens to 17 yos.

Good point

You definitely can do this with cryptography, it’s a really hard problem, but I worked in this space for a number of years, it’s possible.

I worked in this field for 3 years, a lot of the core parts are written, but there are a few key pieces missing and no one has taken it to real production.

You can use a passport in pretty much any country and prove you’re over a certain age. Here is a demo: https://github.com/dog-18/dog18

The parts that are missing are primarily around making secure nullifiers, which prevents someone from reusing identities, but also without revealing any private information. We were pursuing research that allowed nullifier generation in MPC where none of the servers or the users knew the “salt” that their identity was hashed with, so no one could recover the original piece of unique data (like their passport number, even if a govt had a hunch about which passports signed up to a service) but it would also prevent them from signing up with multiple accounts. We got our funding cut pretty bad and management was a mess, so I left and that research I think was shut down. This really is the key part to actually make that viable in the real world though. It’s maybe a year worth of research and a year worth of production left to make that practical.