One problem with vids like this is the algorithm doesn’t know what it is. So, engaging with the stuff too much will open up some very dumb rabbit holes.

Liberal in the traditional sense, as in, believing in liberty, I’m being technical. Not meaning “leftist” the way the word has been rebranded by right-leaners. So, their adoption of “no rules” is ultra-liberal, or libertarian perhaps.

And all social consequences are social. Drawing a distinction between legal and social is arbitrary. Suffering is suffering, and employing it to control dissenting voices is fundamentally illiberal. If you can prevent certain messages from appearing on your platform, you have successfully executed a form of control.

Thus, their ultra-liberty is an illusion. It’s not real.

Sure. Go over into 4chan and try any behavior they would describe as “white knighting” or “simping”. You will rapidly experience some social consequences intended to dissuade that behavior.

Lemmy is a big place. You think anywhere online is going to be perfect like your picture of heaven or something? Get real.

So, I’m not a woman, nor am I overly feminine, and I still call out toxic bullshit when I see it. If you want to say the problem is women/feminists though, fine whatever, if we cleaned up our own shit first, we might be able to make that stick. But when we’re bastards and they’re bitches, and we complain, we’re kinda the fucked up ones, y’know? Since we were supposed to be strong in the first place.

Unless you just think life is shit and everyone should get used to it. Then, just move to Russia or something, for everyone’s sake.

No, it is specifically illiberal spaces that encourage more toxic masculinity, in a bit of a cycle. While the space itself may be extremely liberal and rules-free, a local culture can take over and enforce those same toxic norms in place of any set of rules. And frequently does. While the space may be ostensibly liberal, in effect it is not, due to the behavior of its community.

This is the majority of mens spaces, unfortunately. Online anyway.

So, spaces that encourage toxic masculinity do exist, and they are fully aware of their ruination. See: 4chan.org.

edit: I see some of the confusion here, since 4chan is seemingly liberal, due to having no formal rules. However, that is an illusion. A man is not actually free to say anything they like without consequences there. It’s just that the norms will be enforced by the community, instead of any kind of authority. This is not actual liberty and freedom, simply indoctrination cloaked in an illusion of freedom.

Real freedom would allow a man to express something like sympathy, or being against gamergate, and express that opinion in peace. The reality of such spaces does not actually permit this.

It seems liberal and free, but in effect it is not. This is similar to how Trump seems to be strong sometimes, but in reality is weak and cowardly. Toxic masculinity loves its illusions.

Lemmy is pretty good, for the most part. Depends which community of course, decentralized and only loosely controlled and all.

Neo-liberals, actually. Winston Churchill wasn’t doing any of that shit. Classical liberalism is fairly centrist, economically. Some things private, some things public.

Liberal, as in, believing in liberty. Freedom. How many mens spaces do you know of, where a man is completely free to open up, with full liberty and freedom from immediate consequences, about feelings they may have inside of them?

There’s actually not a lot. It’s a reflection of masculine indoctrination, where men in many places are made to feel like they almost need to be ready to become a soldier at any moment. Guarded, careful. It’s no good, unless your country is actually at war.

Somebody has to fill this place with content…

That’s a really good point too. It’s amazing how much of it is just acquirable skill instead of any kind of inherent quality, and you can’t really distinguish the difference from the starting line either.

Like, as simple an example as technical vocabulary and jargon. Without knowledge its all gibberish, but with just a little bit of time and effort, it begins to all become readable.

Well, that’s one way to retain superior talent.

But yes, it’s always specifically irritating to be around people much smarter and more talented than you. You literally can’t understand them much of the time, by the time your brain has processed one thing they’re saying, they’ve covered two more.

And no matter how smart you are, unless you’re the actual statistical top dog, some people out there can do this to you.

I always feel a touch bad for those people that did really, really well in HS and then go to college. That’s where I learned this anyway, I had just been the biggest fish in what was actually a pathetically small pond. Universities and professional workforces are not so small though, and they finally get barriers to entry, where everyone isn’t supposed to start at a certain age and eventually succeed. Was certainly a shock. lol

That’s an interesting line of thought. A fair number of the things we see around us that we end up hating are the results of people, for whatever reason, adjusting their behavior to be more in line with other people and social pressures, like professional, peer, parental, etc.

Bystander effect is a great example, you don’t have to get involved if nobody else is, you have safety in numbers. You’re adapting to be more like the rest of your community.

Anyways though, people with autism struggle with that whole adaptation thing, which is often seen as a harmful mal-adaptation.

Is it really though? Is people’s herd behavior really all that great? Maybe one of the reasons we kinda mistreat these people is they sometimes seem free of something we wish we could be free of.

The first is great for what it accomplished, but wait until you get to the ones with actually substantial and enjoyable narratives.

History is no longer a very good tool when it comes to analyzing the tech space. It simply moves too quickly, everything that happens is unprecedented in its combination of specific mechanism and social circumstances.

But we’ll see I suppose.

It’s not the past actions that will slowly strangle reddit, but the future ones. It will certainly be there, these things tend to stick around far, far longer after they’ve turned into shambling zombies of formerly-good content. But it’ll become a revolving door running on reputation more than any kind of quality product.

Obviously in our free world, people are free to enjoy the garbage and some will. But it creates an opportunity for others in the market, like us, to make a quality spot again, and pull users with that.

This is why the weekend DDoS attacks and frontpage vandalism don’t really concern me. With spez and Musk burning their services to the ground, we’re (along with other competitors, we’re not the only one) going to get a steady influx pressure for the coming months or even years. Shutting us partly down for a few hours every weekend does nothing in the face of this much stronger phenomenon. Whoever is doing it is basically pissing into the wind.

Well, if you live metroidvania you probably already know all the good ones already.

Yes, Your Grace was a fun little story-driven thing. Or go big and branch out, something like Fire Emblem could easily soak up numerous trans-continental flights. If you’ll get in-flight wifi, something like Mario Maker 2 could also fit, since you’ve got some platforming chops. It’s basically endless content.

What’s your taste?