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  • But instead we are arguing the semantics over whether a man should take responsibilty for his own bigotry or whether the entire global leftist project should bear that burden for him.

    I’m not having that argument? I am sort of confused as to why you think I’m making that argument?

    I think you’re continuing to read me as appealing to pragmatism when I am instead appealing to learning from people who he respects on why he is personally wrong on the issue.

    I would once again ask you, what specifically do you want to happen? If you’re having a hard time articulating it, I would suggest looking at the constructive criticism handbook. https://www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-3/constructive-criticism.html?ref=redstarcaucus.org

    Man is a person. He answers to a community. He’s not actually a party official of the revolutionary guard and you and I are allowed to demand better.

    Demand better from him than providing free gender affirming care and legalizing gay marriage, affirming other alt family structures, proactively having a country do pro-lgbt education to root out cultural bigotry like in Cuba? I’m am somewhat confused by this statement? What does demanding better here look like?


  • There can be no allyship with someone who understands our experience purely through the lens of political opportunism.

    Do you think all pro-lgbt measures done in socialist states to be about political opportunism? Because in Cuba it took a multi-decade effort while struggling against the influence of the catholic church and colonial-legacy machismo culture to expand lgbt rights to the point that they’re better than the US





  • Honestly this is a really uncharitable reading of what I’m saying.

    If someone ostensibly left-wing or socialist needs to read theory in order value my life and needs as a proletarian ally then they can necessarily be no ally of mine. More work needs to be done beyond tacit academic acceptance.

    Except here it seems the guy does oppose transphobia generally but needs specific work done to advance his understanding of the issue.

    And understanding social practice in other places to improve your own social practice isn’t academic. It is not an ivory-tower-ass thing.

    What other minority has to be vetted for their use before being welcomed into your so-called revolutionary project?

    Socialist projects are doing better on lgbt issues because they are recognizing the old bigotry against lgbt people for what it is.

    LGBT people aren’t being used, except in the sense that discarding liberal bigotries in general helps make the system more robust.

    I’m literally a trans person btw, I am approaching this from an angle of actually helping people remove their own bigotries. What is your solution here? What should dessalines do to get better on trans issues, concretely? If you’re having a hard time articulating your criticism, I would suggest the constructive criticism handbook.