Third generation citizens are not immigrants. They are native citizens.

Honestly the let’s plays will be epic tho. Pure chaos.

Hey! The mine was in Kenya or something!

Our* toothbrush, comrade.

I didn’t claim anything tho…?

Lol like that makes any difference?

Sorry I would rather not :/

For my city, just for a very specific example, it takes less than one afternoon and 80 bucks total (no fees and almost no capital fund requirements) to open a corporation. It takes weeks if not months to open a coop and it costs 2500 bucks PER member.

I don’t know the specifics of all cities and states everywhere in the world. But the system is built to benefit private corporations much more, as it’s a capitalist system where owning capital equals power, and workers are a commodity.

Like the literal law. In most places it’s a much more involved and expensive process to even open a coop compared to a traditional private company. It takes more paperwork, more fees, more capital funds etc. Also, getting investors in (when they can’t own the coop, as they are not workers) or even loans from private or state banks/institutions is much harder. There are several programs incentivising people to open private companies, giving them tax credits, making the application and approval process easier, giving access to funds and education etc. How many there are for coops? In most places around the world there are 0. In what ways does it appear the opposite to you…? Like this all seems very self-evident to me.

The system literally disincentives and makes coops less competitive.

Opening a coop is harder, more expensive, have less subsidies or tax benefits, less opportunities for investments/loans etc.

And all of this makes running coops more expensive, thus less competitive, thus the ones that do manage to open either can’t grow or die.

That’s not so true nowadays. Skilled factory workers already make a good salary in China nowadays. Like better than any other “global south” country at least. And by cost of living, better than the US probably tbh.

Americans downvoting you, mad they are the bad guys.

Holy shit crazy seeing Jones Manoel being mentioned here on lemmy. One of our best 🙌

What is your definition of working? I’d say communist revolutions have indeed worked. I base that on data, facts and the material conditions of places that had a revolution compared to countries in similar economic and geopolitical situations.

Cuba is doing much better than most Latin American countries. In most areas it’s doing MUCH better.

China is doing infinitely better than any other comparable country, like India. It’s not even a comparison.

The USSR was also doing much better than any country in a comparable situation when it did exist.

How did these revolutions “not work”?

Post-WW2 the US became the Empire and that’s where the wealth came from. It was the only industrial superpower in the west, and basically colonised Europe, the Americas, a good portion of Asia etc.

China isn’t becoming the superpower it is by having manufacturing. It’s part of it, but the amount of public investment there is insane and incomparable. They build hundreds of kilometres of metro every year, hundreds of kilometres of rail etc. they invest in nascent industries. And it’s pretty silly to say they “privatised” anything. The CPC completely controls all capital markets in China. Even if one part of an industry or another is “private”, it still answers to the CPC first and foremost. Like China has better access and cheaper healthcare than the US nowadays.

And Deng’s reforms were necessary, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make any mistakes… Cuba has one of the best healthcare systems in the world and it never privatised their system.

How is China becoming the richest country in the world then? Why would having rampant homelessness be a requirement to become rich? Specially since the US had the biggest increase in wealth when it had pretty low homelessness rates (post WW2).

Yeah sure… it worked great for Chile. Unless there is a wave of democratic socialism all over the western world, specially the US, all at the same time, it’ll just be squashed by fascism backed by the US and friends.

The only real solution that has worked before is a communist revolution. Like it or not.

The state is a tool, and currently in most of the world it’s a tool of the 1%… people really forget about the French, American, Dutch etc. revolutions? Where the capitalist class violently overtook the state from the aristocracy and rebuilt it to serve them?

The US is the great evil, the main cause of all issues in the world. Fuck you guys honestly. You aren’t even self-aware enough to realise this. That’s why we in the global south fucking hate you 😁

They already resolved the real estate issue, without any crisis. And you might not know cause this isn’t news in the US, but China has been massively offloading all its US debt and dollar reserves. They are preparing to decouple, the US has been threatening to do it for so long. But the fact is, the US and the West will suffer much more than China. They are pivoting to a service and tech economy, and will become the new US of a new “global south” pole.

The image that China is a “manufacturing” hub for the west is super outdated.