• Jared Mohammed@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    People have already gotten offended by the female protagonist when it got leaked a few months prior. Anything that isn’t a cisgender straight white able-bodied male is considered “too woke” for them.

      • Jared Mohammed@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        20
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I know it is pointless arguing with a centrist. But how is promoting diverse characters an agenda. Why is it only if the characters isn’t part of the usual “status quo” that it is considered as such.

        • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          True, the dominant agenda still remains making white, west European or Anglo men out to be heroes and saviors (the opposite of what they usually are IRL).

          There’s definitely a spate of really obnoxious takes (pandering) by Disney and other mainstream, white-owned media to try to score diversity brownie points, that said. I’d hesitate to call it an agenda, so much as it is just liberals trying to pretend their shit don’t stink, and giving lip service to diversity with little substance if any behind what they do as usual.

        • TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          1 year ago

          Thats an agenda. If your goal was to promote only men thats also an agenda. If youre into feet and make foot porn, youre pushing a foot agenda. This isnt about status quo.

      • the post of tom joad@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        There isn’t widespread hate for female leads.

        Stop. Who are you to redefine “widespread” and “hate” for us? Youre not gonna gloss over that statement and move on, no sir. You’re gonna need to flesh this thought out for us, cuz it sounds like an opinion, and you stated it as fact. It’s the lynchpin of your argument so…

        • TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          1 year ago

          There isnt. Ive talked to white nationals, gamer incels, and the most liberal guys and they all like female leads. If you think hating female leads is normal they youve been misinformed. It is more complex than “these people are evil, they hate woman”.

          • the post of tom joad@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            There isnt.

            Ive talked to white nationals, gamer incels, and the most liberal guys and they all like female leads.

            Hoo boy. I don’t want to seem like I’m tearing you down for having a different opinion, but you understand i can’t take a random experience youve had, talking to someone ive never met as evidence you are correct, right?

            Your argument here is what’s known as an informal fallacy, “anecdotal evidence”.

            Those people you talked to have opinions, and what they provided you was their opinion. The fact they agree with you doesn’t make your position stronger.

            Please think on this. if your goal is to debate people with quality arguments then you must.

            • TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              I agree that my experience is amecdotal.

              I’m not asking you to take my word as fact or evidence, but instead encourage you to talk to people all across the US and see if the theory matches the real world. I think it is not helpful to say “Gamers hate woman” or “the right hates woman”. It’s a simplification that encourages bias rallying. I don’t think we can solve our problems without the support of those we disagree with, and better understanding those groups helps.

              I’ve met a lot of men and woman who are sexist and racist and everything bad under the sun, but there are just as many grey people in the middle as there are in the edges. Thats my own claim, and you shouldnt take my word for it and instead talk to others yourself.

      • su25@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        “what? men don’t hate female leads! most guys love (franchises where the female lead is white and conventionally attractive)!”

  • albigu@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    31
    ·
    1 year ago

    Considering GTA’s historical treatment of women in their older games, I’ll still hold my breath to see how the characters are written. Although gamers seething is always nice, I’m always pessimistic with the AAA games industry.

    • Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I’ve really wondered what 6 will look like given how abhorrent female representation is in these games. It’ll likely still have its cringey moments, but the trailer looks pretty encouraging.

  • DankZedong @lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    27
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    According to polls over here, far right parties are most popular among the gamer crowd. I’m sure they will take this in a good way.

  • olgas_husband@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    latina woman as protagonist, the fall of the game industry 😔 /s

    still behind cyberpunk tho, that u can play as a trans person

  • Yiazmat@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    1 year ago

    trailer looked good but my interest kinda dropped when it said 2025. when it’s that far away my brain is just like “well there’s no reason to care about this for another year or more, then” because you know they’re just gonna drip feed you the smallest bit of info at a glacial pace until then.

    same thing happened when Bethesda announced ES6. I hate when these companies announce projects super early. I wish more games would follow the Fallout 4 route where they announced it in the summer and it released like 4 or 5 months later.

    • FuckBigTech347@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      1 year ago

      For real. If a game gets announced with a release date that is more than 6 months in the future chances are very high that by the time the game comes out I will no longer have an interest in playing it (unless it turns out to be really really good). I personally don’t care about any teasers/hints that marketing drops every now and then up until the release and I don’t follow any influencers/shills who make long essays about the latest teaser so most game releases just fly over my head at that point.

  • Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    1 year ago

    You’d think people would be happy about the player character being a thicc latina but you’d be wrong.

  • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s bad enough that women hold up half the sky, now they have to hold up half the citizens of wherever GTA VI is based?

          • PeeOnYou [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            i found it to be immersion breaking and a little more than distracting. I guess it helps make the game bigger and provides unique storytelling angles but I still prefer a more complex singular storyline where I don’t have to context switch unexpectedly often

            • ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              Makes sense, though at the same time it allows for a more multifaceted story like in a book that follow different characters in different chapters. Plus it gave people different choices for which main character they wanted to be.

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Niko Bellic talking about his harrowing experiences in the Bosnian War while stuck in traffic lights next to a van with a transphobic joke emblazoned on the side. On a building in the distance a giant billboard featuring a woman pissing into beer bottle can be seen

  • Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    1 year ago

    GTA is a notable blank spot in my gaming history, just never interested me much. I could have sworn that earlier games in the franchise had character creators though, were they actually just set male main characters in every one prior?

    • lorty@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      The only time you could make your character was in the online mode for gta v. You might be thinking of Saints Row.

    • M68040 [they/them]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      The first game had eight characters to choose from, with four being female, but nobody gives one or two much thought. Three and on had single main characters, V had the player swapping between three characters as a gameplay/plot mechanic, and V’s online component lets you roll you own.

  • ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 year ago

    Haven’t seen the trailer yet. I never really understood the hype of watching a Trailer. I feel like they just show the best parts of a game, meanwhile I have no clue if the rest of the game is boring or if the menus are confusing

    • TheDorkfromYork@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Reputation plays a big part of it. If your friend has made the best cake multiple times, you trust them to do it again.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]@hexbear.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    10
    ·
    1 year ago

    i never though rockstar would have to balls to actually have a female protagonist

    which is funny when you consider how very controversial their whole image used to be